View Full Version : Felt soles; banned!
Teifi-Terrorist
10-07-2008, 17:58
By all accounts come the end of the year it will be illegal to use felt soles in the UK, or so I was informed yesterday. Anyone heard anything about this? By all accounts, and I guess it makes sense, 'bugs' are transported from river to river etc. from being absorbed into the felt. {;
Glad I've got a pair of korkers now, will make changing over a lot easier....
TT.
Presumably neoprene wetsuits [for use with a fiberglass canoe] will be ok, I imagine - can't upset a few canoeists can we? But thousands of anglers, well the Goverment probably assumes we won't vote for them anyway.
Tyke.
PS if worried about transmitting Gyro or other nasties between different rivers on boots / waders etc then put them in a bin bag & chuck em in the freezer for 24 hrs, I imagine that should kill off any life forms present. T.
Leighton
10-07-2008, 19:55
Inerseting Steff.
Are we going down the same road as what they have adopted in New Zealand?
Thing is, now what do I do. I am at the verge of purchasing a new pair of wading boots!!
I am also going to Canada at the end of next month. My plan was to buy a new pair of felt sole specifically for taking over ther & not use them over here. A good idea in my opinion!
Where did you get that info from then Steff?
Will be a pain but is fair enough in IMHO, key to parasite survival is having a nice nice wet spot to persist in until your "host" transplants you into a new river.
What are "korkers" by the way?
Sam
Teifi-Terrorist
10-07-2008, 22:42
Leighton; I won't 'out' the person, but needless to say it's someone that I would trust, and info that I wouldn't pass on otherwise. Yes, I 100% think it's down the line's of what's being adopted in NZ. To be honest mate, if you were going to buy a new pair, I would look for the aquastealth soles, which are supposedly very good, but I have yet to try them.
Sam; totally agree, it will be a pain but does make sense, for once - especially so for those of us lucky enough to travel to some exotic destinations from time to time; you never know what could be hitching a lift in the felt, I guess.
Korkers are wading boots that have changeable soles, got my first pair a couple of months ago and find them great. Will make the changeover a lot easier, as you can just take out the felt and replace them with the e.g. aquastealth without having to buy a new boot.
TT.
speycaster
10-07-2008, 22:57
well im not changing mine ive only just got em
fredaevans
11-07-2008, 04:20
By all accounts come the end of the year it will be illegal to use felt soles in the UK, or so I was informed yesterday. Anyone heard anything about this? By all accounts, and I guess it makes sense, 'bugs' are transported from river to river etc. from being absorbed into the felt. {;
Glad I've got a pair of korkers now, will make changing over a lot easier....
TT.
Ditto, boats, etc. What you need to do is take a small tub (squareish) and put a half gallon of water in same, plus a half cup of Bleach. Slop around for a minute or two and "what ever" is a dead issue.
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speycaster
11-07-2008, 11:46
thats the way to do it |\
SH!T ,
bad for us i have to buy waders and boots for SWMBO expensive boy and modest me ,just about got us sorted with boots and spares boy and I match foot size ,the leader has smaller feet though .
Leighton
11-07-2008, 20:32
Leighton; I won't 'out' the person, but needless to say it's someone that I would trust, and info that I wouldn't pass on otherwise. Yes, I 100% think it's down the line's of what's being adopted in NZ. To be honest mate, if you were going to buy a new pair, I would look for the aquastealth soles, which are supposedly very good, but I have yet to try them.
TT.
Steff,
Please dont think that I was questioning your source of information, thats not my style. I was only wondering if there was any info out there on it. I know that DEFRA have produced a paper on GS.
I will have to look out for aquastealth then!!
Anyway, thanks for the info Steff.
Diolch.
Salmonella
11-07-2008, 21:46
By all accounts come the end of the year it will be illegal to use felt soles in the UK, or so I was informed yesterday.
Is there a 'white paper' or discussion document to be published first?
Anyone heard anything about this? By all accounts, and I guess it makes sense, 'bugs' are transported from river to river etc. from being absorbed into the felt.
Is that the view of all??~# ~# ::
I think responsible anglers should be given the option to disinfect their tackle; as well as their felt boots.
This system works for Iceland.
Anyway - surely residual canoe 'bilge' water holds a trillion fold more 'bugs':eek: :eek:
This is the most likely way for salmon pathogens to spread.
Ella
speycaster
12-07-2008, 15:32
not putting disenfection on ,my tackle to bloody painfull lol :::>;):@
Not heard any more about this here or elswhere ,any updates ?????????????????
Teifi-Terrorist
10-08-2008, 10:20
Nothing I'm afraid ACW, can't find anything on the web either, other than for NZ. Will update if I find/hear anything more.
Again, as originally pointed out in the first post, I was putting it on the forum to see if anyone else had heard anything about it. I guess it may never come to fruition. {;
TT.
Certainly hope it comes to nothing ,as mentioned the thought of new boots for 3 of reasonable quality makes me sort of wish boy "finds the other sex " quickly :?~:.
Just lifted this from the FlyfishUSA newsletter well worth buying stuff from them I do often !
In New Zealand
FELT SOLED WADING BOOTS TO BE BANNED FROM 1 OCTOBER, 2008
The Minister of Conservation agreed in principle last week with a Fish & Game New Zealand submission to ban the use of felt soled wading boots for freshwater fishing. The ban, yet to be approved and included in the proposed 2008/09 Anglers Notice for Fish and Game Regions, will be effective from 1 October 2008, and applies to freshwater sports fishing anglers in all New Zealand waterways, except those within the Taupo Fishery.
The Lake Taupo fishery is administered by the Department of Conservation. The Department has advised that if a ban were introduced for the rest of the country it would recommend that the Minister approve a ban applying in Taupo.
The ban applies to the use of felt-soled waders or footwear incorporating or having attached a sole of felted, matted or woven fibrous material when sports fishing.
Felt-soled boots are considered a high risk vector or carrier of microscopic aquatic organisms like didymo. Preventing the spread of didymo is an important aspect of ban, but it is increasingly understood that felt soles are an effective vector for other microscopic pest organisms. While there are procedures for decontaminating felt soled waders, it is acknowledged that these are not practical in many situations. The proposed ban supports three of the objectives of the didymo long term management plan; to slow the spread of didymo and other freshwater pests throughout New Zealand, to protect valued sites and at-risk species, and to maintain the North Island free of didymo for as long as possible.
Earlier this year Fish & Game New Zealand consulted widely with agencies and stakeholders on the proposed ban. Formal submissions from MAF Biosecurity, the Ministry of Tourism and Environment Southland all supported the proposed ban. Of the 43 submissions made through the Fish & Game website, 20 supported the ban, 17 opposed it and six supported the ban with various conditions.
Some opposing the ban cited the safety provided by felt soled boots. Felt, or fibrous, soles provide a good grip on slippery boulders, and, for this reason, have become popular with anglers. However, other boots and sole types are available that offer alternative ways of maintaining grip on slippery surfaces.
The use of felt soled waders was strongly discouraged during the 07/08 season, and the ban should come as no surprise to most anglers.
Fish & Game New Zealand believes that banning the use of felt soles will immediately remove a high risk cause of spreading unwanted organisms like didymo among New Zealand’s waterways. Anglers must still “Check, Clean and Dry” all equipment that has been in contact with the water wet before moving to a new waterway.
For more information:
Bryce Johnson
Chief Executive Fish & Game New Zealand
Hope this throws some light on the subject
This is the first I,ve heard of this, whether this is good will I guess be discussed at length, I have a pair of Simms with felt and studs does anybody know if its possible to fit different type of soles to them if I have to change.
Steve M
Teifi-Terrorist
11-08-2008, 10:13
Hi Steve,
I have seen these, which I'm guessing would be a suitable option, rather than having to buy new boots etc.
http://www.fiveten.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=58&osCsid=b09ba57d1da9b57cd42...
TT.